Shaver Pro Series Wood Furnace
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Overview of the Pro Series
The Shaver Pro Series is an outdoor wood furnace available in five models -- the 140, 165, 250, 290 and 340. It has a heat output ranging from 3,000 square feet to 8,000 square feet, with a water capacity of up to 300 gallons and a heating capacity of up to 326,000 BTU. The Pro Series features a cylinder firebox that is called 3/8-inch thick but is actually over 4/10-inch, which the company claims is 70% thicker than the competition. Optional fireboxes that are 1/2-inch thick are also available. The Pro Series is available in 20 different colors. 2015 prices for the Pro Series start at $5,177, with financing available.
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Date created: 2017-01-30
Location: Northeast Ohio Snow Belt
"2011 Pro Series 250"
I built a new house and shop (approximately 4500 sf.) in N.E. Ohio. Both very well insulated. I have used this stove 5 years. Where we live is considered the snow belt area due to Lake Erie winds. Two years ago it was negative 20 degrees, four weeks straight. This stove definitely couldn't keep up had to use kerosene heaters in the house to compensate. Normal winters are in the teens and twenty's at night. This stove has a hard time keeping up then also! Can't get the house warmer than 70, furnace fan runs all the time blows Luke warm or less air. Have to use perfectly dry seasoned firewood or the pipe will creosote every week. The factory definitely has major quality control issues. Very poor craftsmanship!!! The look of the stove is embarrassing to show to you friends and family. I only burn hickory red oak and hard maple. Can't get good water temps, usually at 125 at best. Very simple design but poorly engineered, manufactured and customer service. Buy anything else. This was a waste of time money and effort!!!! I'm a general contractor and will not show this to my clients!!
Date created: 2016-12-18
Name: Eric Wright
I religiously tested the water, did a lot of upgrades, set on a concrete pad. End of the forth year I noticed a little water on the ground below the overflow tube, the fifth year I filled it with water and it flowed like a river from the bottom, don't waste your money.
Date created: 2016-11-20
Name: Hosey O'grady
Location: S.E. MN
"Mine seems ok."
I bought a 165 in 08 and it developed a small leak in 09. Called Shaver for warranty and they brought me the next larger stove for the cost of delivery. I did get a little bit of run around but not bad. Still cooking along with no issues. There are a few things you can do to make the furnace more efficient. Put fire brick in the door for one. I also took a 1' square piece of 1/8" steel and set it over the grate in the front so when the fan causes the fire to rage, it comes up in the middle where it should. I also bought a Ranco control to turn the fan on and off because it's adjustable and works many times better than the water heater thermostat it came with. I put a 4" tin elbow on the fan inlet and installed a 4" dryer flap for $2.00 that closes when the fans not running. I had to add a screw to the bottom of the butterfly to make it close all the way and the fan opens the butterfly when it turns on. In Minnesota it gets pretty darn cold and the stove only gets fed 2x a day unless it's really windy. I think with this simple design that people tend to put too much wood in at a time and they keep the water temp too high. Mine is the most efficient at about 23rds full and water temp at 160 degrees.
Date created: 2016-09-30
Name: M. Etherton
Location: Columbia, IL
"Don't waste your money"
Bought the 165 in January 2009, pump went out within the first month - dealer replaced. I have gone through four other pumps and last year it started leaking, I called but never heard back from Shaver. My sons and I took all the tin off and the top is rusted through near the flue and the bottom is rotten - numerous leaks. Since my sons are both welders we can fix the water jacket ourselves. They are planning on using 1/4" steel instead of the original 1/8". The outside of the water jacket was bare steel from the factory so we will sand down and paint to help protect it. My son's were both amazed at the very poor quality of the factory welds and the overall poor quality. Don't waste your money on a Shaver - warranty is useless and they don't last.
Date created: 2016-08-22
Name: R. Smith
"Shaver warranty/ junk"
I've had a Shaver 250 for a few seasons now and the fire box floor fell in due to poor welding, by poor I mean minimal spot welds. Over time the flat stock they use for legs gave out and the floor fell in and warped. I tried calling Shaver twice a day for a few months. When someone occasionally answered the phones they said that someone would be in touch with me, when that finally happened they had me email pictures in only to do nothing about it and ignore me. I finally got sick of it and contacted the district attorney's office in Arkansas. [email protected] This gentleman was very helpful and got in touch with Shaver after a few weeks of them avoiding him. He found out that they didn't close the doors but only changed their name to Hillbilly Trailers. After some investigation by me I found out from one of their salesman that they were having a lot of warranty issues. They decided to close shop to avoid doing any of the work that they guaranteed in their contract. I found out that they are still selling Shaver furnaces under a different name. When Shaver finally answered the special investigator from Arkansas district attorney, they said that I cannot have a water sample and they would not warranty anything. My question is, how does a water sample have anything to do with the firebox floor? Water never gets into the firebox. They use the water sample as a loophole to get out of any warranty work. Long story short, they changed their name to avoid warranty work and are selling the same crap under a different name. If anybody on this forum is having issues with her Shaver stove and not getting an answer, contact this gentleman at the Arkansas attorneys general office I provided his link in the beginning of this and he will do his best to get results for us. If he gets enough complaints he may have the authority to shut them down and not allow anybody else to get screwed by this company.
Date created: 2016-06-01
" Here's the truth..."
Purchased this way back when the oil shortage was looming its nasty head. Since I live in the woods of Northeast Pennsylvania and have unlimited access to my own supply I decided to get an outdoor wood boiler. I will admit the slick advertising and lower price shifted me to the Shaver. I simply couldn't afford a Central Boiler. If you don't have farmer's smarts you probably should stay away for all outdoor wood boilers. I personally wouldn't buy one if I had to buy the wood. The payback for me would have been just too long. Mine paid for itself the by the end of its 4th year. It will work adequately in its stock form but much better with a few inexpensive tweeks. I insulated the door, chimney and inside the top of the boiler. Don't forget the underneath. Some reflective 3/8 or 1/2 in insulation can be slid in easily. While dry hardwood obviously will work best this is one of the few units that will not only tolerate but burn quite nicely and clean with dry softwood. Wetter wood will burn but expect a lot of smoke just like with any fire. Lots of other mods but here's the bottom line: I got it to work quite nicely with a minimum amount of money. Expect a learning curve. Its not rocket science but does require common sense. I do like the simplicity with few electronic components to fail. And if they do fail they can be replaced easily. There is nothing complicated about its operation. That said, in 8 years I've replaced one thermostat (a 10 minute job) and a blower motor (1/2 hour). Total price around $65. Would I buy one again? I would check around first since there are many more choices nowadays. If they were still 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of a Central Boiler, yes, but it also would depend on what the others offered and at what price. It's very satisfying to know that I can pretty much determine what I want to spend for heating in a given year.
Date created: 2016-01-09
Name: Alan Shaull
Location: Pryor, OK
"Make your Shaver better"
I just read Shaver reviews and decided to give some advise to Shaver owners or prospective buyers. First I don't believe owb are for everyone.Second I experienced many of the same problems in the first year as others that have written reviews .My suggestions for new owners would be too replace plastic and galvanized fittings with something of better quality.I knew I was not buying a Cadillac but was buying a decent basic affordable stove that could be tweaked into a more effective one. I am happy with my Shaver today. After my first winter I hated the stove but with changes that are inexpensive to add on you can make your stove better. Things that made my Shaver better were adding a thermometer with submersible probe to monitor water temperature. I replaced the thermostat on back of stove with a simple thermostat switch. Mine is open at 175 F, closed at 155 F. Also I made something for the draft motor. I call it a gizmo, it controls the amount of air being drawn into the burn chamber. I have another idea to increase efficiency and hope to have it ready next season. Overall I am glad that I purchased a Shaver. The cost was much less than the Cadillac's and I have enjoyed toying with the stove. If anyone would like information on gizmo contact me at [email protected] All items used on modifications can be purchased through Grainger.
Date created: 2015-10-06
Name: Shannon Murray
Location: Stockbridge, MI
"I wish these reviews would have been available when we bought ours."
Horrible....warranty is a joke and half. We purchased ours in March of 2009. We didn't use it at all the 1st year as we had to wait to have someone install well. In 2013 we had numerous leaks in the bottom. Called them, they voided our warranty even though we had our water tested every year and put in the suggested chemicals. They said because we didn't have it tested in season for beginning of 2009 the warranty was void, even though I explained we hadn't used it at that time. When the welder came out to fix the bottom he lightly brushed it to clean it up and we ended up with 6 holes and discovered the bottom is so thin, it's really sad. I would never recommend a Shaver nor would I ever buy one again. We spent over $5000 of our hard earned $$ and bought junk and can't afford to go purchase another. They should have to buy all of them back with interest and allow us to go purchase a real stove.
Date created: 2015-10-05
Name: GARRETT SCHOENER
Location: New York
"Shaver Pro Series 165, biggest pile of scrap iron"
I bought this boiler brand new in 2010. By the end of the 2014 heating season it was leaking so bad I was adding water daily to get through. I have used the recommended rust inhibitor yearly in this boiler,and like everyone else says, their boasted warranty is a joke. You wont even get anyone to answer the phone. I had a distributor give me the owner's cell phone numbers and they wont even answer them. He told me good luck, he does not sell their stoves anymore because of no customer service and they won't stand behind them. Do not buy anything from these people, they need to be put out of business.
Date created: 2015-08-13
"Will not honor warranty"
If you buy a Shaver furnace after you are warned...it's your own fault.
Date created: 2015-02-24
Name: Scott Colter
Location: New Bloomfield, MO
I purchased my Shaver wood stove in 2011. I did not use it until the winter of 2012 when I was able to get everything hooked up, which was a nightmare. The local dealer around the Jefferson City, Missouri area did not install, and of course he informed me that any heating guy can hook it up. That was a lie. We used the unit in the winter of 2012 and had two pumps and a thermostat go out. I used the recommended additives. We did not use the unit during the winter of 2013 due to buying a new electric furnace; I needed to see what the electric bill would run when I am unable to cut wood in the future. The Shaver unit was drained during this time period. We fired the unit up for the winter of 2014 and again followed the recommended guidelines for the additives and the unit has three small leaks in the bottom. I have attempted multiple times to contact Shaver with no luck or any return phone calls. I am planning to have the unit fixed this summer and sue for the expenses in small claims court in Missouri. I will not purchase another Shaver furnace in my entire life. I would recommend anyone looking at a wood furnace to look anywhere but Shaver. As you can tell by reading the postings there are several comments similar to mine. Good luck. Scott
Date created: 2015-02-05
Name: ron kahl
Location: Gainesville, MO
I have had this Shaver furnace for about 5 years. I took care of it like a baby and have had to replace the poorly constructed pipes, pump, and blower. The door does not seal properly and I had to reconstruct that. The design is just simply poor. I called when I first started having trouble and all I was able to get were voice messages and no call backs. It seems like every time I turn around, something is not working on the furnace. I always call the company and leave a message, but no one ever calls back so I end up calling a local plumber or electrician to fix it. I hope this can help someone who is contemplating buying a Shaver. My father and father-in-law both have Central Boilers and they seem to work very well.
Date created: 2015-01-28
Name: Peter Rose
"Shaver's Pro series 165"
I bought this stove and from the start had problems with it. They have no customer service. I called many times, leaving several messages with no return call. After 1 year of use with additive added, the stove began to leak. Incidentally, it was not used through the warmer months and was drained. Two months into the cold season, it is leaking and I cannot reach anyone by phone. Terrible company. I would not encourage anyone to buy from them.
Date created: 2014-11-20
Name: Victor G.
"Worst boiler ever"
Stay away from the leaks, wood hog, pump, blower and fitting problems. They say they have a warranty until you try to use it. This is a piece of, well, you know what. The EPA has changed the way all wood-fired stoves, heaters and fireplaces are built this coming year, 2015. So maybe that will weed out the bad companies like Shaver. Shaver has taken over another brand, Natures Comfort, due to their crap and the new EPA guidelines. They got away with selling these pieces of **** so I would stay away from that brand too. They will treat the warranty the same and probably lower the workmanship to save money. I've had my Shaver 165 since 2010 and nothing but problems - two leaks and three pumps went out, and one blower and bad fittings. The flue is on its way out, too, on this thing, due to poor workmanship. Also, after this year, it will be harder to have these older, lower efficiency wood boilers repaired after the middle of 2015.
Date created: 2014-11-17
Name: V. Gilbert
I bought my Shaver 165 in 2010 and heated with it that year. I had leaky fittings from the factory right off the bat. I replaced them myself, so I didn't think it was that big of deal at this point in time. I had a good seller, very nice and helpful. The year I bought it he got cancer, so I didn't bother him with the problems. Then, in the 2011 heating season, the pump went out and the blower, too. Now I'm starting to become unhappy with it. So I replaced them and the rest of the season went okay. I started to notice the tremendous amount of wood I was using, and I only use hardwood. My house is 1400 square feet and insulated very well. I live in Kentucky, so I don't live where it gets below 20 a lot. I'm an HVAC tech, so I can fix most of the problems myself, but I'm still not happy. Then, in the 2012 heating season, the boiler got a leak in the front, about a inch above the door. So I repaired that. The pump went out again. So replaced it again. I should mention I called Shaver, with no help through all these problems. So I took it upon myself to fix them due to that fact that I have young children, one who is disabled. Then, in the 2013 heating season, another leak in the front, about 6 inches to the side of the door. I repaired that. So I removed all the tin around the outside of the boiler and the sides. The steel wasn't protected from rust with paint, so condensation was rusting it. So I sanded and painted it. Then, in the 2014 heating season, the pump was out again. I replaced it. I looked inside the boiler like I do every season, and I noticed the flue pipe, where it doesn't cover, is scaling and rusting away due to condensation and steam. Soon that will need to be replaced. Since I've bought this piece of **** Shaver has redone the design of the water jacket where the water drains out the top of the box. It's not like the older version, where it drains out the side of the boiler about 6 inches from the top, where the steam and condensation happens. This should be a recall, like with vehicles when they have a major problem or fix. The government should step in because this is a major problem with older Shavers from possibly 2012 and back. So the newer version the flue is completely covered in water, preventing the scale and rust as long as you keep the boiler full. They say now, when buying a boiler, that their chemical for the water lasts 5 years instead of having to put chemicals in it every month. It's because of that fix with the drain at the top. I do realize some have bad water that has to be treated all the time even with the fix. but the ones who have pretty good water don't, which does help the customers who bought older version because the flue pipe is going to rust out eventually. The steel they used to make these boilers is poor quality and the fittings are plastic; the pump is low end and the blower is a low end product. The grate inside will warp and spread; it won't fit right after awhile. Bottom line - it has very poor quality material and workmanship. There should be a major recall on the older boilers from 2012 and back to replace them because they didn't come up with a whole new designed boiler. For example, the 165 is exactly the same design, but with the drain fixed due to all the problems it was causing. So they fixed it for future buyers, but that does nothing for us. A recall should be forced by a judge or government. Stay away like the others say.
Date created: 2014-07-25
Name: Greg Steinacher
Location: Jerseyville, IL
I purchased our furnace in 2009 and was happy with the condition of the furnace when it arrived. I was told when I purchased it that it was built simple and strong and it was just as they said. I liked my furnace so well that I pursued a dealership from Shaver. I've been a Dealer now for over 4 years and have my original furnace still working away. My furnace is paid for now and have not bought any propane for 2 years now. Its like free heat. I've sold several units in the past years and only 1 customer was not happy with the furnace. The customer undersized the furnace that he needed and was not happy. Shaver gave him his money back and I picked up the furnace and returned it to Shaver Furnace. I have noticed that most of the problems that folks have are self inflicted. They don't follow the manual on the hookup or the water treatment its pretty basic and most all outdoor furnaces need the water treated as the manual clearly states. You should always buy from a good Dealer. Someone who believes in their product and will back the customer. I have talked to several folks that have not used any treatment in their furnaces even though they know they should. I guess they don't believe anything will happen. It just like a car, you can not expect it to last if you do not service it and if you don't service it, your warranty is void. Its just that simple! I am proud to recommend the Shaver Products.
Date created: 2013-11-20
Location: Glassboro, NJ
"False Warranty and Furnace is Crap"
I bought this unit 6 years ago and it worked fine. Just a few days ago it started leaking for no reason. I take care of my furnace every year and clean it thoroughly when winter season is done. I drain the water and cap the top so no rain can get in. I keep the PH on the water at 7 so it doesn't become acidic and rust my furnace. Despite all this, my furnace is leaking and I called Randy (don't know where Ben is whom I talk to and bought from) several times and no answer, just voice mail. He did give a number for Weld Rite and I called them at least 10 times before I could reach anyone. I couldn't leave a message cause it would say that the voice box is full and just hung up on me. When I finally got someone, they told me that I have to send them a picture of the leak and a water analysis, then they would look at it and send someone if it met their approval. In the meantime, my furnace is leaking and it gets cold at night freezing recently. I emailed them and asked if they could send someone to look at it and I have not heard back from them. It just seems as they just don't care. Their warranty is the worse as much as their customer service. I would never buy from them again. For those thinking of it, stop thinking about it. You will regret it when you need their help. Call them and see how many times you can reach them and that can give you an idea how they run things.
Date created: 2013-10-20
Name: Terry Condon
Location: Middletown, Missouri
"Purchased Our Shaver 165 in May of 2008"
Purchased our Shaver 165 in May of 2008. Did not get furnace delivered until December. Numerous runaround excuses from Ben at Shaver why the furnace is taking so long to get. Furnace was hooked up and first used in February 2009. I wish I would have noticed the very bad customer service at that time. Our furnace has only worked good at best one heating season. I was just about to faint when it arrived. The furnace looked like preschool kids assembled it, very very bad workmanship not done by professionals. I called Shaver (Ben) and complained. Was told it does not matter what it looks like, wait until you hook it up and see how it works. Well, after numerous pump failures, door gasket failures, more pump failures. The furnace started leaking out of the bottom. Tried to contact Shaver in July 2013 and was told to send all info about the water treatment that was used, proof of water treatment chemical purchase and analysis, pictures of leak. I to date, have not heard one word from Shaver. What a joke this company is. I have tried numerous times to contact them by phone and e-mail and its the same thing, no reply at all. Do not buy a furnace from this company. They should be run out of the country. They are a bunch of liars and cheaters. Do not fall for their misleading advertisement about how great their product is, like I did. Now, I have a $10,000.00 (cost of all labor and materials to install) piece junk. Please! Please! Please! Heed the warning, stay away from Shaver furnaces. They are junk, do not buy one. Now, we have to hire our attorney to try and get this junk picked up and our money returned. You can contact me if anyone wants to about this issue.
Date created: 2013-07-26
Name: Jason Jeffers
Location: Huntsville, Tn
"Shaver Wood Boiler Leaks"
My Shaver wood boiler started leaking this past winter 2012. After the heating season I found the leak and got the run a round on getting the 100% warranty work. In the end, I had to re-weld the leaks myself. I cannot recommend their product due to the warranty and customer support. Ignore, ignore, and then ignore this is the standard operating procedure. If anybody want pictures of my leaking furnace simply email me, [email protected]
Date created: 2013-07-24
Name: John Cyfers
"Never Buy From These Guys"
I have had my furnace for 6 years and it develop a leak. I was never told to use a water treatment or given any paper work. Now the people at the main office can't even fine an invoice. I had to fax them one. So, I am getting with some people to make a video who bought a Shaver furnace and have made an appointment with an attorney. I have 4 other people and if anyone else wants on the bandwagon, please let me know. This is not right, a 20 year warranty is 20 years. [email protected]
Date created: 2012-09-13
Name: Steve W.
Location: Marion, NY
"IT JUST KEEPS ON WORKING !"
I have use my Shaver wood furnace for 3 seasons now and it has performed faultlessly. I use this furnace to heat my 1500+ sq ft ranch in upstate New York and never worry about the cold and get unlimited domestic hot water during the heating season as well. I have to load the furnace only 2x a day just as advertized. Installation was easy and straight forward and maintanance is a snap. These units are not fancy and don't have a lot of bells and whistles but that's why they keep on working.
Date created: 2012-02-21
Location: Asheville, NC
"Shaver Pro Series 250"
I have owned a 250 model for one year now. It has been nothing short of excellent! My furnace is slightly oversized for my home (recommended) and so I only load it once a day and it keeps my home toasty warm. I use radiant heat, to heat my home. I have the water temperature set at only 90°! This means that the furnace is very efficient; not heating up a lot of hot water and having to keep it hot 24 hours a day. One of the best things is that I only have to clean the ashes out every two weeks at the most. There is also extremely little ash that you to clean out. I can do so without opening the firebox door, which is a lot safer than other models. Most other manufacturers claim that I could open their firebox door and push the burning wood aside, HA! I would like to see them do that! My firebox is so hot that I cannot go anywhere near there without getting burned, let alone clean out the ashes. I like the fact that of I need a part, I can get it at my local Granger store or plumbing supply. I installed the furnace myself and it was a piece of cake. I had it heating my home the same day. There are manual is very comprehensive and even a novice can do it, using your handy dandy Pex pipe fittings that you push on by hand. The price was much lower than competitors and they even have an on-site warranty. A lot of other companies want you to ship the furnace back to them to be repaired! Can you believe that?
Other Pro Series Reviews
A homeowner on outdoorwoodfurnace.com said that his Pro Series can't keep up when the temperature outside gets below 25 degrees. Several members replied that the unit is most likely fine, just undersized, and a few suggesteed adding insulation. There are a couple of other reviews on the same site, one from a homeowner who loves their unit and one from a homeowner who dislikes his unit.
Pro Series Warranty
The warranty for the Shaver Pro Series wood furnace is comprised of the following:
- 20-year parts and labor on-site warranty (prorated after 5th year)
- 1-year electrical components warranty
- 5-year on-site warranty against furnace leaks
- 30-year/lifetime warranty on roof and siding
The cost of the service call is not covered after 5 years.