WEIL-MCLAIN Ultra Boiler
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Overview of the Ultra
The Weil-McLain Ultra is an Energy Star rated condensing gas boiler with an AFUE between 92 and 93.3% for regular conditions, and 98% for conditions related to low temperatures. It is a two-stage induced draft boiler that has what Weil-Mclain call "integrated PhD (Precision Hydronic Data) Technology", a system that "initiates efficient and ongoing hydronic heating". The design of the Weil McLain Ultra gas boiler is CSA certified.
Weil-McLain has recalled Ultra Series 80,105,155 and 230 boilers manufactured after June 1, 2012 and prior to March 11, 2014. A cap on the boiler manifold can crack and release gas into the home, presenting a risk of fire or explosion. Consumers may contact Weil-McLain at 888-770-7139 for more information.
Consumer Reviews of the WEIL-MCLAIN Ultra
Date created: 2015-01-20
Location: Westchester, NY
"Weil-Mclain Ultra 230"
I just finished installing a Weil-Mclain Ultra 230. After reading some of the reviews, I was a little worried on whether I made the right decision. Reading about recalls and install problems, I was nervous. But going through other boilers, it seemed like every boiler out there had a few bad reviews. While there were bad reviews on the Ultra 230, there were some good ones also and the boiler specs seemed good, so I jumped in and went through with the purchase and the install. My house, I cant remember it ever having heat, and I have lived hear for 30 years. It has old baseboard, single-pane windows, plaster walls with no insulation, and some drafts coming through the doors. With all of these issues, I had my doubts that any boiler I chose would be able to get heat in the house. With all of the issues the house had, the install was a little rocky. One area would get warm, while another area wouldn't. With bleeding the system constantly, modifying the settings, and getting the air and all the kinks out, the house finally had some heat. Since I just installed the system, I do not know what effects this will have on my heating bill, but I am hoping I should see some savings. And as far as the consistency of the boiler and it breaking down, I just installed the system this week, so its too early to tell. But so far I would say that I am satisfied with the boiler. Time will tell if any issues come up. But so far, so good.
Date created: 2014-10-29
Location: Westchester, NY
"4 years trouble-free does not compensate for 2.5 years of aggravation"
Wein-McLain had always been reliable when I used then in the past on other homes, so when I had to replace my boiler I had a Weil-McLain Ultra 230 installed in 2009. I was looking to lower my gas bills and have a quieter unit. The install was for a 4,700 square-foot home in New York state. The boiler was a problem from the day it was installed, constantly breaking down when it was cold out. I don't think we went without a service call in the winter for 2 years. It had cracked ignitors and flames shooting out that melted the housing. What a P.O.S! Middle of the winter and the house could experience freeze-up damage. The boiler was still under warranty but Weil McLain parts were never available. Then they send via parcel rather than Fed Ex Express because they'd rather save $5 in shipping than protect their customer's home or recognize that a $8,000 boiler install should be problem-free. I had multiple Weil-McLain reps visit and not one of them could solve the problems. At first, they tried to blame installer. Then, failing that, they said it wasn't properly maintained (which is hilarious because the idiot who said that didn't even realize it was a new install). Had a third party look at it and they said the install was perfect, it's just a lemon. I told Weil-McLain that I want a full replacement. They said no. Then I said that they should ship me all the possible parts that could break down for the machine so that I don't have to guess if they'll be available next winter. Again, they said no. I had to threaten legal action and get the rep back again to show them that the housing was melting (again!). Finally, after 2 1/2 years of arguing with me, they sent a replacement for just about every part in the boiler except the frame and combustion chamber. The installer had to spend a full day replacing everything. I don't know if he was ever compensated for that. So now, 4 years later, there hasn't been an incident. But note - I am still afraid to adjust the heat when I travel and I don't trust the thing at all. Yes, the gas bill went down. But my electricity bill went up because of the number and size of circulator pumps. Overall, even though the unit is now working: 1) I don't think I saved any money on a "high efficiency" unit 2) It's surprisingly loud. You can hear the unit kick on and "make the pipes sing" 2 floors up 3) Weil McLain has demonstrated the difference between giving a warranty and truly honoring it. They did little to help avoid property damage and nothing to anticipate future problems or deal with current issues unless pushed. 4) The unit is unreliable and I still don't trust this thing. I go away on vacation and I'm always concerned my house will be frozen solid when I return. Conclusion: Stay away!
Date created: 2014-10-10
Name: R. VanHorn
Location: Angola, NY
"The worst furnace ever"
This is by far the worst furnace I have ever had in all my years of owning a home. It does not heat the house properly. On a cold day(below 20 degrees) the house won't get past 65 degrees. I cannot trust it, it keeps going into lockout and I have to reset it. If I was out of town and it quit on me I would have a big problem. I have had many repair men at the house to try to fix it, but it is still the same. I don't like it and I don't want it. I'm very frustrated with the whole thing. I would never recommend this and I would never buy the same product again.
Date created: 2014-01-12
Location: cincinnati, oh
"Unreliable and expensive to repair"
I have three Ultra 155's running various apartment building and all of them are hassles. All of them have had a motherboard die. Rather than having to replace the problem transistor, you have to pay $400 to replace the whole board. Also just had a blower motor go out. For some reason those are $300. On top of it all, they aren't much more efficient than the 1980's broiler I replaced. Waste of money!
Date created: 2013-10-21
Name: s. redinger
Location: northern wisconsin
"Many problems, little help"
Ultra PHD 155 installed in 2002 (I have a box full of replaced parts). We had many problems starting from year one. Both main water pipes broke and leaked water, one year apart. Two blower fans, 3 circuit boards, igniter(s) this I can understand. There are many other parts replaced also. I have maintenance done regularly. Every year I have to have service work done on this system, still error codes continue and usage is disrupted. This was not an inexpensive boiler, it should last and be relatively problem free. I have put more money into fixing this P.O.S than it cost originally. I would not recommend it. My current service company does not recommend Weil-McLain. It's probably time to replace with a quality boiler/company, not Weil-McLain.
Date created: 2013-06-02
Location: Montreal, Canada
"Requires Manual Restarts"
Ultra unreliable boiler, constantly requires manual restarts - sometimes several times a day! Cannot leave unattended in winter or in return I will find my house frozen.
Date created: 2013-02-18
Name: F. Guillot
Location: Burlington, VT
Installed in '05. Generally reliable, then this winter, within 2 weeks it was "red tagged" by the gas company due to a failed gasket. Then the blower died and left us without heat for 24 hours. When technology works, it's wonderful. When it doesn't, it really doesn't. Think very carefully before buying one of these.
Date created: 2012-10-02
Name: Jim Christopherson
Location: Hope, Idaho
"Ultra is very unreliable"
Installed the Weil-McLain 6 years ago and have never made it more that six months without it quitting. Suspect the electronics have caused most of the problems. However, no one has been able to repair it right. On line help and phone help from the company has been nonexistant. New mother board ordered, five to six hundred more dollars down the drain. If I had the funds, I would start up a national ad campaign against the company and see if that would get their attention.
Date created: 2012-01-29
Name: R. Overton
Location: Hampton Bays, N.Y.
Years owned: 5
"Funds R low"
5 years of misery and no heat. Don't care attitude of Mr. Beckett and Weil McLain!! Could write a book. The combo of Weil McLain/beckett or Reillo direct vent does not work for more than six weeks. Total consumer rip off! Many hours of no heat or hot water. After 4.5 years of aggravation and frustration I had a masonry chimney installed. So far system is okay but inefficient and noisy. Something no one has considered, their is red dye in home heating oil. With a direct vent oil system, aside from not performing, the red dye will coat the siding of your home or building. It will not come off! If you happen to see a stainless steel chimney "rusting," It's not rust. It's dye from the oil! Weil McLain and Beckett are more than dishonest in my opinion. Look elsewhere!
Date created: 2012-01-23
Years owned: 4
"Noisy pump bearing"
Installer had to fix bad factory wiring. Went well after that. After 1 year the red pump bearings sounded like they had sand. Weil-McLain didn't honor but supplier did. 1 yr later is noisy again. Will have to live with it. Gained efficiency, lost the quiet. Would have second thoughts on another purchase of Weil-McLain equipment.
Date created: 2011-11-24
Years owned: 6
"TIME TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT"
I am writing this as a installer/homeowner. I have been in the hvac trade for 23 years. When I started in this trade, the only boiler my boss used was the WEIL-MCLAIN models. I have installed models, ultra, gv, cgs, cgi, cga, heii, wgo, cgx, he, and several other models. The underlying issues with any of these boilers, or any manufactures boilers for that matter, is if they are not properly installed and set up right, they can not - I repeat- they can not run trouble free. Especially the Mod Con Boilers, they need to be installed and serviced by technicians that know what they are doing. I myself have several N.A.T.E. certificates. I would highly suggest homeowners to do their homework before purchasing expensive systems. The benefits of having a highly qualified installer do your installation will pay off bigtime. People need to understand the importance of regularly scheduled maintenance on their hvac equipment. I am not saying that wm boilers have been trouble free, what I am saying is that a lot of problems stem from the installation. People!!!- If it isn't installed right, how can you expect it to run right! My experience has been when I have had issues with wm boilers, I got great response through my distributor and made it right with my homeowners. When buying expensive equipment-take care of it! These comments are coming from an installers standpoint. No other brand is without problems, my advise to mr./mrs. homeowner is do your research on your product and definitely do your research on your installing contractor. I sleep well at night knowing that I have WEIL-McLAIN ULTRA 80 boilers in my own house as well as in all of my rentals.
Date created: 2011-05-12
Location: Los Angeles, CA
"Possibly the best boiler I have ever purchased. Reliable, efficient, money saver!"
I have owned my Ultra Series gas boiler for about a year now. What I really like about the boiler is that it is efficient. Well-McLain includes Venturi mixing bodies in this piece of equipment which allows for gas and air to be combined more thoroughly. In times like these, efficiency is important. Another key factor that I like about this boiler is its reliability. No matter what the conditions, this boiler has always been reliable in times of need. What I dislike about the boiler is that the aluminum body dents easily. Thankfully, the dents are easy enough to pop out. If this boiler ever goes bad, which I doubt it will since it has not let me down so far, I would definitely buy the same brand again. If a friend was searching for a boiler, I would highly recommend Well-McLain boilers. They make quality boilers that are becoming more and more efficient.
Date created: 2011-04-08
Name: John Smith
Years owned: 5
Bad news. In 5 years, the blower has been replaced, the heat exchanger had to be replaced, and this is the third control board. Good clean power, good clean grounds but the board still goes out every 6 months or so. Putting another new one in Monday but the tech is not sure why they keep going out. The engineer has been out here and yet they cannot figure out why. My advise go with a different brand.
Date created: 2010-01-05
Years owned: 2
Do not buy Weil-McLain Ultra Boilers! They do not work and Weil-McLain will not stand behind them. We have had one for 2 years that has not run correctly since it was put in. Weil-Mclain reps were out to look and verified it was installed correctly but it still will not work properly. WM's course of action is to blame the contractor who put it in even though they have already verified that the install was correct.
Other Ultra Reviews
Comments about Weil-McLain gas boilers on HVAC-Talk message boards and heating contractor sites are generally positive:
- In one hvac-talk.com forum, one service tech says that the circulator problem on one Weil McLain furnace is due to a bad motor. Heat is strong in every location except one. This heater is strong and persistent, but the circulator requires attention.
- In another hvac-talk.com forum, another tech observes that the Weil McLain boiler works very well, especially through 3-way valves, and produces considerable heat. A couple of other forum guests agreed with this assessment.
- In yet another hvac-talk.com forum, both techs and guests agree that Weil McLain provides good multiple relay distribution, providing that the circulator and thermostats are up to par.
Weil McLain Ultra boilers come with a 5-year parts and labor warranty. The unit must be registered within 30 days of installation to qualify for the warranty.