LAARS Mini-Therm Boiler
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Overview of the Mini-Therm
The Laars Mini-Therm boiler is a gas-fired residential hydronic boiler series. This series is available in two models, the JVS spark ignition and JVH hot surface ignition with induced draft. Both models can be equipped with natural or propane gas.
The Mini-Therm JVS line offers 85 percent AFUE in six different models with either single or two-stage heating. Energy-saving components of this model include a low/high function that allows homeowners to set the amount of heat disbursed, a built-in draft diverter to retain more air, and automatic vent damper.
Similar to the JVS, the JVH product line is manufactured in six models, but is only available with single-stage heating. This model is equipped with a hot surface ignition system, induced draft system and offers up to 83 percent AFUE.
Both the JVS and JVH product lines feature the Laar’s copper tube heat exchanger with small cast-iron wet-walls to increase functionality, low-mass heat exchanger and quick heating response.
Date created: 2018-02-08
Name: Marlon R
Location: Newark, NJ
"Insufficient heating support rep sucks."
Insufficient heating, not saying is the boiler might be the plumber / installer talk a good talk so I chose him in the process he recommended 100,000 btu but them he bough a 75,000 btu , I told him to take it back and stick to what you suggested 100,000 any him name is June pernero from Newark so beware, so everything done I'm waiting for winter very light heating coming through so I called him up , good talker say man is a really cold winter so I give in so it went on for couple years I got screwed by this June pernero guy. Early January I decided to install a bathroom on the ground floor, went under the house to run a drain pipe guess what June pernero run heating lines under the house which outside the house so by the time the come back in the house it cool down so heating will poor all the time, spoke to another plumber he said it should be more btu 150,000 btu he said bad job he run return lines inside the heating vents blocking the flow of heat so it must do all over which will cost $8000.00. Ok I call the support service at Laars he don't wanna talk to me because I'm not a plumber very rudely and hang up
Date created: 2017-11-17
Name: C. Canada
Location: Philadelphia, PA
I am a plumbing heating contractor, I have installed these boilers for years as a low cost option to landlords and homeowners who are on a tight budget. I also have installed these in my own rental properties. The units in my properties have been in for approximately 10 years. Other than the occasional no heat due to a pilot going out because of a bad thermal couple (which happens on all makes and models) they have been incredibly reliable. Not to mention they are very light and the installers enjoy not having to lug in a heavy cast iron unit.
Date created: 2017-05-15
Name: B Mason
Location: Toronto, Canada
"Teledyne Laars Boiler model JVT125C"
Well, where to begin. If you consider all I am extremely pleased with the boiler I have installed in my house. The unit was installed in 1986 by a licensed contractor and was supposedly maintained by the local gas supplier for many years. I have been warned by other contractors that the unit was/is not good. I have done the maintenance on the unit for about 12 years and out of curiosity I got the local gas supplier to come in and do the maintenance one year. The technician that came in was supposedly a boiler man as opposed to a ForcedAirGas tech. He took the unit apart, partially, cleaned it somewhat, said he was done and started to put it back together. I escorted him out of my house. I did a better job the first time I cleaned it. I think the problem we all have is newer products, furnaces, boilers, central air conditioners, refrigerators, washers, dryers etc; are all slapped together with parts made by people that don't know or care where the parts are going. They are then assembled by unqualified/uncaring personnel that know there will be no repercussions if the product doesn't perform or even work at all. They don't care. I was considering an nti boiler as a replacement. It was highly recommended by an HVAC man I met and yet the reviews are not good about that product either. He also mentioned that SlantFin boilers were not made well anymore. That is the other product I was/am considering. From my experience SlantFin boilers have been the best for years with very low frequency of repairs and simple maintenance. As you read through some of the "posted" reviews it's either the customer is happy because he has had no problems or the opposite and there have been nothing but problems, service techs don't know how to repair the units because they've never seen the new configurations, they haven't received training. The warranty packages don't cover the items they should because the manufacturer will not stand behind the product because they didn't make it. So if you buy a new unit you have a 50/50 chance of it being a piece of garbage or lasting longer than 5 years without some kind of major breakdown. Then you have to consider the contractor that's doing the install. The installer can make or break the installation. We have a 55 year old refrigerator at my cottage that we keep for beer, it was used when we got it. Since 1995 I've replaced 2 refrigerators at my mother-in-laws house.
Date created: 2017-01-19
Name: Paul H
Location: Falls Church, VA
"Still working after all these years"
This unit came with the house I purchased in 1996. About 10 years ago I serviced it myself by taking it apart and cleaning everything. Now with 20 years of ownership it still works great- no problems with the electronics/ignition, water pump, electric damper, or anything. Just clean the burner tubes every few years (takes 5 minutes) and it keeps running as it should. If it ever fails I'll probably buy a new jvs-100 unit and install it myself.
Date created: 2015-11-03
Name: B D
Location: El Paso County, CO
Very poorly designed product. Nothing but problems. Sucks through gas like crazy. Pilot constantly goes out, and it is hard to access the area to relight it. Had to have it cleaned twice in one year at a cost of $400 each time. Yes it took that much because all of the coils were clogged up with soot. Would not recommend to anyone. There is a reason why it is one of the lowest priced boilers on the market. The old adage applies. You buy cheap you get cheap. Glad I got rid of this thing.
Date created: 2015-09-19
Name: Patrick H.
Location: Edmonton, AB
"Should have read the reviews first"
I called a mechanical company who has served us well in the past. When they sourced the boiler, they said all their wholesalers recommended the Laars boiler. Well, after a 3 day install, which should have been a quick swap, we have been 2 weeks without heat. The installer and now the specialist technician can't get it to start up. This is a brand new unit, which supposedly left the factory working. We have $8000 in, and now it sounds like we'll need to remove it and go with another brand. I'm bracing for another $3-5000 to get a boiler. We are devastated. Wish I had a furnace! People with forced air should be delighted they don't have to worry about it.
Date created: 2015-01-11
Name: Frank K
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
"Minimal problems in 20 years"
The unit was oversized, which caused cycling and which led to a piece of the flue rusting out. I turned down the gas flow and checked the flue every couple of years, cleaned the boiler fins and vacuumed. I had a failure this winter with the diagnostics board, so $160 later installed one but it did not correct the problem. It turned out to be a blown fuse. Egg on my face. My father-in-law has an NTI and I would not swap my inefficient Laars for that piece of crap, no how. I could replace the board, gas valve, relays and aquastats for the cost of one of his service calls, and they are a routine occurrence.
Date created: 2013-03-17
Name: Dick S.
Location: Humarock, MA
"Laars Mini Therm JVS 50"
I have noticed on this forum that the Model Numbers don't come up. Laars has many different models out there. Some I don't install. On the other hand, where I need to raise a boiler off the floor, usually for water reasons, I have used the Mini Therm with great success. It has been around for a long while. Improvements have been made along the way. Both the supply and return are now 1-1/4" instead of the old 1" connections. They also recommend primary/ secondary piping on the boiler. These changes have pretty much eliminated any problems the boiler might have had. The two problems were connected to water circulation. First cold return water traveling through the copper heat exchanger caused condensation which would help clog the passageway through the heat exchanger. The addition of a primary/ secondary pump, eliminated this problem. That same pump system solved the problem with whistling/ and or knocking on the high temperature part of the heating cycle. This same primary/ secondary piping is used on just about every high efficiency boiler on the market now. And if that primary pump fails, you will either get the knocking (water turning to steam) or a boiler lockout on high temp.
Date created: 2013-02-17
Location: Jersey City NJ
"Every year a problem since we bought it"
This boiler has a problem every year since we got it. Stay away from this brand.
Date created: 2013-01-31
"Hydronic Boilers Laars"
Have a laars jvs 160 nk hu 2 installed: after a year of operation the boiler stared to leak, (I was thinking condensation). I was wrong. Second winter roller in, the boiler failed on 30 of Dec, went to see what going on. The boiler had been on fire, all of the controls are blacken, black smoke stain all over the walls. The circuit breaker did not trip and the wiring looked like brunet spaghetti, burnet plastic smell all over the house, the heating core was leaking and water was dripping on the gas burners. There is a 12 inch vent a with a T drip pan, (up to code or LAARS installation standards). The plumber removed the boiler LAARS electric damper was stuck open, the vent was open on the outside of the house (The LAARS REP said: they have see roll outs that were cause by snow covering the vent” Not the case here”). The panel that has LAARS controls on, shows positive signs of electrical ARC FLASH from the control board. (They only warranty the boars for 1 year). The heating core is clearly leaking and now they came back and tell us that they will not stand by their warranty unless we buy another boiler from them, plus the factory has to prove that fire was caused by poor workman ship of the boiler. The company is forcing us to buy their product again, I feel like we are working with cartel! From my experience; LAARS customer services earn a rating 1 out of a scale of 1 to 10. The company controls boards are made from third world country and have a life cycle design of 1 year. As to the heating core all I can say if the board are a extra poor grade then the heating core is to. And they will take you for a ride and rape your wallet. Never buy a LAARS boiler and replace the one you have before there a ARC FLASH in your house
Date created: 2012-11-20
Name: R O'Brennan
Location: Chilliwack, BC
"Run from Laars"
My Laars Mini Therm boiler is 4 or 5 years old. Last year I spent $1.200 in repairs. This year the unit broke down in mid November and service people are uncertain what the problem is after 8 hours. The house is very cold and I am very dissatisfied. If the unit can be repaired I will hope it runs until next fall when I replace it. Laars is not on my list of brands I'll be looking at and I will warn everyone in the market for a boiler to avoid anything built by Laars.
Other Mini-Therm Reviews
Several consumers around the web post negative comments and concerns regarding the Mini-Therm boiler’s performance. Forums such as hvac-talk.com and heatinghelp.com have several posts indicating homeowners purchased "lemon" units; these consumers mentions their units have repeatedly broken down over the years.
Frequent errors reported with the Mini-Therm include system lockouts, melted electronic controls and failing rollover switches and other components. Costly repairs and the frequent resurfacing of these troubleshooting issues are common grievances aired by homeowners in other review forums. Contractors attribute some of these problems to poor venting, and others to the unit itself.
Hvac-for-beginners.com also rates Laars systems poorly, stating the warranty coverage is not as good as other brands and the components may not be as durable.
LAARS Mini-Therm Model Numbers
The Mini-Therm is available in different models which vary in efficiency and capacity.
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Laars provides a 1-year limited warranty for all parts. In addition, the integral storage tank is equipped with a 10-year limited warranty and the primary heat exchanger is covered on a pro-rated basis for 20 years after the installation date.