Payne PA12 Central Air Conditioner
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Overview of the PA12
The Payne PA12 air conditioner is a discontinued model once manufactured by Payne. Payne is owned by Carrier, which is a subsidiary of United Technologies. The model is still available through various HVAC distributors, and is often used in new construction as a builder's choice.
The PA 12 has a SEER value of 12, and operates with R22 refrigerant, also known as Freon.
Units are available in a range of sizes varying from 1.5 to 5 tons. The design of the PA12 air conditioner allows for easy access for maintenance and service personnel.
Date created: 2019-04-17
Name: T Alan
Location: Carson City, NV
I had this unit (5 ton - 60,000 btu) installed in the Spring of 1999 in my 3,300 sq ft home in the Carson City, NV area. Yes, the unit is undersized for the size of my home considering how many 90-100 degrees days we get per year, but it normally cools off at night and I open the house up at night and cool it down to about 60 before I close things up each morning. I typically run this unit for about 10 hours/day for about 4 months of the year, about half that much for another 2 months and then occasionally throughout the rest year. After 18 years of use, I had to replace a $19 starting capacitor (did it myself) and now after 20 years of fairly hard use it looks like the scroll compressor motor has gone out. I haven't decided yet if I will try to replace the compressor, or go ahead and replace the entire condenser unit (the outdoor part of an a/c), but I doubt that I will get this many years of trouble-free service out of whatever I replace it with.
Date created: 2019-04-05
Name: Wayne Davis
Had this unit installed 9-4-2014. Had to have the outside unit motor replaced twice @ $89 labor a pop . 4 years later the inner coil started leaking. Coil, under warranty. $ 400 labor to replace. Got this just before retiring and did not expect this.
Date created: 2014-10-07
Name: C. Carroll
Location: East Texas
My AC has run for 15 years without a single problem with the unit. Checked the charge three years ago.
Date created: 2013-08-26
"Unit Does Not Cool Off Enough"
Horrible. Doesn't cool off at all. Waste of money!
Date created: 2013-07-30
Location: Baton Rouge, La.
"Cut Electric Bill in Half"
Had an 8 year old Goodman unit, changed out to a 5 ton Payne, compressor, coil, everything. First month, electric bill went from $240 the previous August to $120.00. 16 seer, much more quiet and efficient. A year later, the bill for July was $102. Live in South Louisiana, keep it at 75 during the day, 70 at night. Our installer is so confident in it he gave us a 2 year labor warranty along with Payne's 10 year parts warranty. Getting a Payne unit installed in our home in North Louisiana this week.
Date created: 2013-06-27
Name: Greg Perry
Location: Leesburg, GA
"Payne is a pain!"
Awful unit. Local dealer undersized unit and it took forever to cool. Problem when you buy a new house is builder will always use cheapest stuff. Replaced with a bigger unit(Rudd) and cools house in minutes. Had service agreement with Albany Air and everytime they came out would find a problem and charge several hundred dollars. I should have called dateline to come see what they do.
Date created: 2011-12-05
Years owned: 1
"Payne a/c has been nothing"
Payne a/c has been nothing but a loss since it was installed. Wish I had took the $2,500 I spent for it and got a new toy. I had to replace it after 1 year and $800.00 more to repair it in labor and freon. I just got tired of the cost of the junk and put in a Good Carrier and have had no issues since......
Date created: 2011-10-04
Location: hillsboro tx
Years owned: 3
I bought the unit new Payne PA12NA060-A and when arrived it was to be pre-charged, on freon in it dealer checked said service valve bad, serviced system, the following year same thing 3 year same thing, got mad demanded they find the leaks, they finally found it. The condenser coil had 6 leaks in it , will not repair it & no warranty wants me buy new unit from him.
Date created: 2011-09-24
Name: L. Hildebrand
Location: Coorado Springs, CO.
Years owned: 6
"What does this mean?"
I've had this ac unit for 6 years and it has worked and is working as it should, very good. Reading other reviews of the ac they mostly sound that this is a far inferior unit. However, how many Payne ac units have been installed, probably many. How many negatives a very small percentage. I'm not interested in recommending any products because we all have different experiences. I would suggest to anyone I've had my Payne PA12NA024-G for 6 years and it works great.
Date created: 2011-08-29
Name: A. Sunday
Location: San Antonio TX
Years owned: 4
"Very Upset Consumer with Company Who Does Not Stand Behind Product"
Unit was installed 8/13/2007. In 2008 unit had holes in coil--repaired-- following year same problem, third year, we demanded coil be replaced-- we paid the service work, yesterday got home after being gone for weekend-- unit not working (temperature outside 109--inside 90). Called Carrier Corporate this morning after very little rest last night because of the heat and just like before, they do not give any satisfaction. This unit is a pile of junk, has been since day one. Purchased through home owners insurance-- NEVER buy that either. We need to get that brand off the market. I'm looking into all avenues of consumer protection--let's band together and make them take it off the market--and provide those of us who have been harmed with restitution.
Date created: 2011-07-23
Location: Atlanta, GA
Years owned: 2
"Stay Away Dont Even Consider"
We had two units installed in our home a little less than two years ago. Since then we have had to call out the techs four times. These units are so bad. We had them put in to replace our builder grade original ac units but what I wouldn't do to get those back. If you're considering putting a Payne in your house, think again. It's not a wise idea, its a mistake that I wish I could take back.
Other PA12 Reviews
A post on city-data.com refers to the fact that Payne is a subsidiary of Carrier. The writer
mentions that the two brands have the same inside components, and that Payne is the "generic" version of a Carrier. A contractor that posts on hvac-talk.com states that Payne is Carrier's cheap line, and that he would not recommend their products.
A homeowner asks a question on doityourself.com about his Payne air conditioner making
a "buzzing" noise. The experts say to look under the cover outside to find the source of the noise, but it is probably an easy fix. The homeowner reports that there are no other problems with the operation of the air conditioner. Searches of various forums did not reveal many problems with Payne air conditioners.
Payne PA12 Model Numbers
The PA12 is available in different models which vary in efficiency and capacity.
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The original owner of a Payne air conditioning unit receives a ten-year limited warranty upon
registering the unit online within ninety days of installation. If the unit is not registered, the
warranty period is five years. Apartments and rental properties also receive a five-year limited
warranty. Payne warranties do not cover labor costs, and the original installation must be by a
licensed HVAC technician.