Payne PG9 Furnace
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Overview of the PG9
With eight models available, Payne's PG9 Series offers a large selection of condensing gas furnaces in a variety of efficiency ratings, features and configurations. Units range from 90 to 96 percent AFUE, but all meet Energy Star standards.
The highest tier models in this series, the PG96VAT and PG95VAT, offer up to 96 percent AFUE and provide two-stage heating, which allows the furnace to consistently operate on a low energy output until there is a drastic change in temperature. These models also reportedly provide efficient heat transfer due to a secondary heat exchanger and variable-speed motor.
The PG9 Series offers three models of 95 percent AFUE furnaces, as well as two 92-percent and one 90-percent AFUE furnaces. These models provide single-stage heating. Several are available in upflow, downflow and horizontal configurations. A variable-speed fan, electronic-controlled blower motor, and tight-fitting doors to reduce air leakage are additional features of these units.
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Consumer Reviews of the Payne PG9
Date created: 2012-09-13
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
"Payne is not a Pain!"
Like one reviewer said, it's the install that is the problem. I work as hvac Tech on a military base. I installed Payne furnaces and a/c units for years. I do a lot of install side work and have installed dozens of these. Payne is built by Carrier and is identical part for part other than the label on the front and most important to consumers, the price! They run about $400 cheaper. I have installed a lot over 15 years and have only 1 fail. It was a bad draft motor in the first 4 months and was covered by warranty. I have one in my home for 10 years without a glitch. These are easy to troubleshoot and technician friendly, with not a lot of unneeded sensors like your York, Tranes and Lennox,(those brands are brutal and over priced). They more forgiving on the install unlike the brands I noted . If your piping and duct work isn't exact they will shutdown from all the B.s sensors they put in. Any homeowner with a little bit of mechanical knowledge can repair these. I am not a Payne spokes person or distributor and have no benefit to promoting Payne. I'm just a tech who stumbled on this review site and saw the poor rating and was amazed at how low it was. By the way, I live in Buffalo, New York where all heating equipment is well tested. Again, check the installer, there's your problem!!
Date created: 2012-02-24
Location: Waterloo, ON
Years owned: 1
"Payne is great!"
Despite all the bunk I've read about Payne furnaces in other reviews, they really are very good. I recently had one installed, and my gas bill dropped $30 in one month (and this is as winter was just starting to pick up). It runs quiet, and my humidity even dropped from over 60% to below %50. Talk about two birds with one stone. I also read elsewhere that a furnace will only work properly if it is installed properly. If you are in Kitchener-Waterloo area, I recommend Shillco Mechanical. They were really awesome, and checked up on us a couple times already to make sure everything running good. Cheers to all.
Date created: 2009-09-09
Name: Anthony Graziano
"A great value"
I have never owned a Payne hot air unit, but I have installed hundreds of them over the last 12 years. Mid efficiency pg8 (80% chimney models) & high efficiency pg9 (92% plastic vent models) are normally trouble free when installed correctly. They need normal maintenance & occasional repair. If you are having chronic problems with either of these type of units, I can tell you that your installer most likely has done the installation incorrectly.
Other PG9 Reviews
Payne receives mixed reviews on HVAC forums and review sites around the web. While several contractors on hvac-talk.com believe this series will perform "just fine" with proper installation, others don't like the way these units are constructed.
These professionals note that they receive frequent service calls for Paynes and see a tendency for the secondary heat exchanger to fail if they are not cleaned properly. One professional on this site also says that these units can be difficult to service. Similarly, hvac-for-beginners.com makes mention of the good warranty Payne offers, but rates both the higher and lower-tier PG9 systems very poorly, stating that the units have a low-quality heat exchanger.
Payne PG9 Model Numbers
The PG9 is available in different models which vary in efficiency and capacity.
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Payne offers a 10-year limited parts warranty for all PG9 furnaces. The heat exchanger is warranteed for 20 years. The warranty can only be issued to the original homeowner and needs to be registered online within 90 days of installation. Failure to register the product in the allotted time frame automatically decreases the warranty term to five years.